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"The Last Time The 10 Year Was Here, The S&P Was At 805"
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Submitted by Steve Meyers   

Rosenberg is going bald from all the headscratching that is going on with equity valuations. And yes, we have dissected the 10 Year to Stock correlation before, and have concluded that the fair value of the S&P with the 10 Year here is in the mid-700 range:

The consensus has certainly taken down its numbers on profits and on the economy, but by not nearly enough. The consensus of equity analysts still sees 13% growth in operating S&P 500 EPS for the coming four quarters, even though the math does not work at all. For one, margins have already very rapidly expanded to cycle highs. This means that there is very low potential for profits to grow much in excess of nominal GDP growth, which, at best, will be low single digits. That would put EPS for the next year closer to $80 than the $88 consensus forecast and place the forward P/E closer to 13x than 12x (it is 12x on consensus view). Of course, if the economy does double-dip, then we are talking about EPS going down closer to $60 if the historical pattern during downturns reasserts itself, which then means the forward P/E multiple is really north of 17x.

This is why valuation is so tough — beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Historically, the forward P/E with consensus estimates is 15.6x, and yet if you look at what we actually end up with, it is 19.2x. So the consensus is always publishing an earnings forecast that makes the market look cheap! And, this “bias” is close to 20%, on average. We still prefer the Shiller P/E, which uses the ‘bird-in-the-hand’ earnings, takes them in real terms, and cyclically-adjusts the earnings data, and the multiple here is 20.6x, which is 26% above the historical norm. So sorry, the only way you can get this market to show that it is “attractively” priced is to rely on consensus earnings projections, which by the way, are coming down but still too high. READ MORE